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DEF CON 23 - Chris Rock - I Will Kill You

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A DEF CON 23 talk showing how weak controls in electronic death registration systems let someone virtually kill a person and obtain a real death certificate, with consequences for their identity and life.

HN repeatedly recommends it whenever fake deaths, identity verification or records fraud come up, praising how easy the attack seemed.

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@unforgivenpasta2023-12 · in “Verizon fell for fake "search warrant," gave victim's phone data to stalker”

It is! This video is a bit old now but it's still so unbelievable how easy it was for the speaker to "kill" people (in Australia) ▶ this video

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@TheDong2020-11 · in “What to do if the bank says you're dead”

On the subject of people being declared dead, there's a good defcon talk about abusing how easy it is to declare someone dead. "Chris Rock - I Will Kill You" ▶ this video

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@chatmasta2019-11 · in “It's Way Too Easy to Get a .gov Domain Name”

An alarming amount of societal functionality depends on what effectively amounts to the honor system. This is especially true when it comes to any sort of gatekept specialty profession, like coroners for example. There was a great talk at DefCon about faking death: ▶ this video

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@molesy2019-02 · in “$190M missing after crypto exchange Quadriga CEO dies”

Most jurisdictions (US and otherwise) have moved to Electronic Death Registration Systems. There was a fun Defcon talk about "killing" people with them a few years ago - ▶ this video

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@Maarten882018-06 · in “Facebook ordered to explain deleted profile”

It's not only Facebook who have this process unsufficiently secured. The process for administering real death is also not really tamperproof. There is a hilarious defcon presentation on virtually killing someone and getting a real death certificate: ▶ this video Improperly reporting someone dead, or misrepresenting someone's will is something "you don't do" so the system is designed to minimize friction/pain.

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