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DEF CON 17 - Deviant Ollam - Packing and the Friendly Skies

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Deviant Ollam's DEF CON 17 talk explains how legally checking a firearm in luggage can be the most secure way to fly with valuable tech. It covers firearm transport rules and luggage locks.

HN cites it as a famous talk on luggage security whenever TSA keys or baggage theft come up.

6 comments from Hacker News

@bitxbitxbitcoin2022-02 · in “3D reproduction of TSA Master keys (2016)”

First heard about this at DEFCON at a great presentation titled: Packing and the Friendly Skies. [0] He makes a great case for keeping your laptop with your gun as the only way to guarantee its physical security. [0] ▶ this video

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@rainbowzootsuit2023-06 · in “SFO United Staff Accused of Stealing Marijuana from Checked Bags”

Packing in the friendly skies DEFCON 17 ▶ this video But I would probably also want a lawyer on retainer if venturing into the minefield of the Northeast USA.

@ilovecurl2023-04 · in “Declassified: The CIA Canoe Commuters”

> baggage getting lost One way to make the airlines care more about your luggage and make it highly unlikely for them to lose it is to check a firearm as described in Deviant Ollam's famous talk on the subject: ▶ this video

@mulmen2020-06 · in “Postbank to replace 12M bank cards after employees steal 'master key'”

I don’t think you have to use a TSA lock on luggage with a firearm [1]. If it meets the legal definition of a “firearm” you trigger (get it?) the TSA rules that allow you to use a non-joke lock. Since this includes just the legal firearm you don’t even have to carry an actual gun to prevent the TSA from sniffing your undies. Deviant Ollam gave an (in)famous talk [2] about this at Defcon. [1]: link [2]: ▶ this video

@korethr2016-04 · in “Senate encryption bill draft mandates 'technical assistance'”

Another option is to start flying with something that qualifies as a 'firearm' in your luggage. Such requires actual proper locks that only you can open. There was a talk on this at DEFCON 17 ▶ this video Obviously, this only works in the US. Other countries will have different laws on the ownership and transport of firearms.