What Have The Romans... - Monty Python's Life of Brian
Monty PythonCited 19× on HN, 2017–2026
comedy · general · evergreen · 2017–2026 on HN
The classic Life of Brian scene in which revolutionaries list everything the Romans have done for them, from aqueducts to roads.
Quoted as a joke or analogy whenever someone asks what some institution has ever done for us.
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12 comments from Hacker News
> What have Governments ever created except for laws that stifle innovation/progress every single time? ▶ this video In all seriousness without the government you would have no innovation and progress, because it's the public school system, functioning roads, research grants a stable and lawful society that allow you to do any kind of innovation. Apart from that, you have answered to a strawman. I said redistribute, not give to the government. I explicitly worded things that way because I don't think we should not be having a discussion on policy. I think we are moving to an economy where the share of profits taken by capital becomes much larger than the one take from labor. If that happens then laborers will have very little discretionary income to fuel consumption and even capitalists will end up suffering. We can choose to redistribute now or wait for it to happen naturally, however that usually happens in a much more violent way, be it hyperinflation, famine, war or revolution.
The breadth and depth of Roman bureaucracy and government always amazes me. The contrast between the corruption / at times cut throat politics at the top / end of the republic, and at the same time serious efforts to maintain a reasonable and functional government structure that spans massive areas and many cultures and even attempts to reduce corruption at times is very interesting. For many people at one point or another conquered, the question of "what have the Romans done for us" must have been a real topic of discussion. ▶ this video
> a PI shouldn't become an author just for providing money and a lab. What have the romans ever given us? ▶ this video
Voltaire anticipated Bonaparte with the position "could history please have some credible villains?": link [Just as I believe Bonaparte could easily have had ulterior motives in attacking a pro-republican Tacitus, I believe christian monks could easily have had ulterior motives in bothering to make copies of only the most sensational descriptions of roman emperors — especially considering Nero Claudius "never let a crisis go to waste" Caesar Augustus Germanicus had it coming, having framed them for the fire and all] Lagniappe: ▶ this video
I can assure you, as a life long New Yorker, that most of us do not have an especially strong identity connection to the steam system. Most people don't even know about it, besides the steam cones. Again, the point is economical: the cost of a technology is not defined solely by its age, but by the cost of replacing it with the newer thing. For Manhattan, the cost of replacing the steam network would be immense, with marginal-to-net-negative consequences (larger demands on the city's electrical grid, higher emissions, waste of steam from local cogeneration plants, additional local emissions from per-building boilers). This doesn't mean that district steam is shiny, new, or particularly good technology (and it doesn't mean the opposite, either). It just means it isn't worth replacing, and probably won't be for a while. (By all means, if you want to run on the "kill the steam network" ticket, I'm sure someone will vote for you. But I think that money would be better spent finishing the SAS, IBX, and building some more crosstown lines in Brooklyn and Queens instead.) [1]: ▶ this video
> I guess I'm braindead. Lets see shall we. > None of those things would necessarily make it a net-good thing Who is talking 'net' here? The commenter simply questioned whether social media added any value to society. To deny social media has provided any value to society is as braindead as denying that fossil fuels added value to society. Now whether the negatives outweight the positives ( aka net value ) is an entirely different question. > My grandma could interact with some of her grandkids for a short while on Facebook, for instance. Of course, she (or we) used to just pick up the phone, which is what happens now too. I've seen some cool projects on HN I'd otherwise likely never have seen. Oh so it does provide value. So you are agreeing with me then? > Otherwise I'm drawing a blank. You aren't braindead. You are disingenuous. So you never asked for or search for information on reddit, hn, stackoverflow, etc. You never found solutions to problems on tiktok, youtube, etc? You don't know anyone who found a job via hn, linkedin, etc? Bought or sold stuff on facebook, etc? If you believe that the negatives of social media outweigh the positives of social media, then fine. That's your opinion. But to cavalierly dismiss or deny that social media provides value to society is being disingenuous at best or braindead at worst. Or more likely agenda driven nonsense. Your comment reminds me of this excellent monty python clip: What have the romans done for us? ▶ this video
That’s a great list of nice things that are easy to take for granted. While reading it, I couldn’t help but think of the “ What have the Romans ever done for us ” scene from Monty Python¹. I didn’t know about Text to Speech (TTS) but personally wouldn’t have much use for it. The other things I didn’t recognise is VR. I’m guessing this refers to Firefox Reality on the Oculus Go VR Headset ² (which seems to be no longer available). ¹ ▶ this video ² link
> They may still know how to make fun games and do that on accessible and reasonably priced hardware, but beyond that ▶ this video
>> Government tech investment delivered the Internet, > Don't forget about microchips. The Romans are all bastards, they have bled us 'till we're white, they've taken everything we've got as if it was their right, and we've got nothing in return though they make so much fuss, what have the Romans ever done for us? ▶ this video
You missed the reference about the Romans not doing much. Just pointing it out in case anyone reports the comment that says “oh shut up!” ▶ this video
That's a reference to the Monty Python's "what have the romans ever done for us?" ▶ this video
I read that in a Monty Python sketch voice. Not sure if intended or not. (It’s a fair point either way.) ▶ this video