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A conversation with Elon Musk about Starship

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Tim Dodd of Everyday Astronaut talks with Elon Musk right after Musk's 2019 Starship presentation. Musk discusses Starship's design, why SpaceX favors conventional engines over aerospikes, and how deleting parts and processes speeds up development.

HN commenters cite it as evidence of Musk's engineering thinking, on questioning requirements, organizational errors mirroring product errors, and Conway's Law, and to argue about whether he is a strong engineer.

12 comments from Hacker News

@jjoonathan2020-08 · in “Chrysler's Radical Space Shuttle Design”

Agreed! It's also worth highlighting the bit where he asks Elon Musk: ▶ this video I've internally asked this question so many times, like, guys, shouldn't we maybe do an aerospike? Musk focused on the high combustion efficiency of traditional combustion chambers, combined with the high efficiency of having two stages, as the reason why they won out. Jettisoning irrelevant fuel-containing mass as you go is great for efficiency and as a bonus it makes it easy to put sea-level-optimized nozzles on the bottom stage and vacuum-optimized nozzles on the top stage.

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@simonh2019-10 · in “Solving the Wrong Problem (2011)”

The Everyday Astronaut had a great interview with Elon Musk after the Starship presentation a few days ago. They spent a bit of time talking about how much progress the team had made in very little time, and Musk's take was that it took them an awful long time to finally ask the right questions - years. Once they had formulated exactly what they were trying to do and what the actual relevant constraints were, finding the right solutions and making very rapid progress was actually not all that complicated. He talked about the tendency really good engineers have to spend a lot of effort optimising the design of things that shouldn't be there at all. Finally he banged on hard about always questioning your design constraints. He pointed out that if you get given some design constraints by another team, you should always consider their validity since it;s very unlikely they are optimal. The converse assumption would be that they are always perfect, so looking at it that way there's no reason you should assume they are right from the start. For anyone who worries about the sunk cost fallacy, bear in mind it was only about a year ago they decided to throw away all the investment they'd put into building a composite body, including a huge main body tool. ▶ this video

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@blakes2019-10 · in “Are Aerospike Engines Better Than Traditional Rocket Engines?”

Here's an interesting interview the author did with Elon Musk: ▶ this video Fun to see how interested Elon is with the engineering of rockets, looks like he could talk for days if he had the time.

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@tim3332025-02 · in “Elon Musk Biographer: No Evidence Billionaire Has Any Intellectual Achievements”

If you see video of him talking about spacex he's obviously reasonably smart eg. ▶ this video In fact in that video from minute 1-7 you can pretty much see how he beats the likes of Boeing and gets stuff out faster and cheaper than NASA. It's hard to say - ah that's a good idea, that's how he beats the other rocket scientist guys and then argue he's stupid. At least when it comes to rockets. Politics I'm less convinced.

@tim3332024-11 · in “Ask HN: What gives Elon Musk's companies their edge?”

He seems to combine a number of skills. Everyone seems to agree he's a good salesman and fundraiser. And he hires good people. But contrary to many peoples view I think he's a good manager and engineer. You can see him on video here talking about getting Starship done and judge for yourself ▶ this video