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Plain Text - Dylan Beattie - NDC Copenhagen 2022

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Dylan Beattie's conference talk explores the history and mess behind plain text: encodings, Unicode, line endings and the many ways text goes wrong. It argues that the tidy idea of plain text hides a lot of complexity underneath everyday software.

HN people recommend it as an entertaining, surprisingly deep talk that comes up whenever encodings, mojibake or Unicode are discussed.

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@spudlyo2023-07 · in “Unicode is harder than you think”

If you found this essay interesting, you owe it to yourself to check out this super entertaining talk "Plain Text"[0] from NDC 2022 by Dylan Beattie. Rabbit hole warning: This video caused me to lose an entire Sunday watching Dylan's talks on YouTube, which are uniformly awesome. [0]: ▶ this video

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@tpmoney2025-10 · in “The macOS LC_COLLATE hunt: Or why does sort order differently on macOS and Linux (2020)”

Not Tom Scott, but Dylan Beattie has done a handful of interesting talks[1] effectively on "there's no such thing as plain text" which in part covers this sort of thing. In fact, I think your Danish cities list is actually one of his examples. [1]: ▶ this video

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@ReleaseCandidat2024-05 · in “Write Plain Text Files (2022)”

> Every device, including ones long gone, and ones not invented yet, can read and edit plain text. [...] But plain text? Always. Everywhere. Somebody needs to watch "Plain Text" (Dylan Beattie, NDC Copenhagen 2022) ▶ this video For example, have fun with ISO 8859-2 vs. Windows 1250. And add Windows 1252 for giggles. And for the ASCII-only persons: there still is EBCDIC.

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@mikece2022-12 · in “Ask HN: What is the best conference talk you've seen in 2022?”

"Best" is subjective but one of the most interesting talks I've seen this year is one on Plain Text: ▶ this video And although it's almost ten years old, Gary Bernhardt's "Birth and Death of Javascript" is one I re-watch at least twice a year and frequently recommend (and it's unreal how prescient he is in this talk -- I just hope the references to the Bay Area exclusion zone and us all running for our lives isn't as accurate as his prediction of the raise of WASM): link

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@0xFEE1DEAD2022-10 · in “Mojibake”

Just yesterday I watched a talk from NDC Copenhagen by Dylan Beattie about this exact topic. The story which stood out the most was this ▶ this video The whole talk was an interesting watch tho.

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