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Using ground relays with Starlink

Mark Handley5 HN recommenders · recommended in 2 months, 2020–2020
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Mark Handley of UCL explains, with simulation visualizations, how early Starlink satellites without inter-satellite links could still give low-latency wide-area communication by hopping via ground relays. He shows it can beat fibre on many long paths.

Cited in Starlink latency debates as a clear visual analysis showing sub-100ms latency is plausible even without inter-satellite links.

12 comments from Hacker News

@thamer2020-10 · in “Starlink Packet Routing”

I would highly recommend the video linked from this article: ▶ this video It's a simulation of the various ways in which the Starlink network could be arranged to route between satellites and ground stations; very detailed and super interesting.

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@sneak2020-06 · in “Realtime Starlink Satellite Map”

You don't need inter-satellite links for low latency, as Mark Handley has elegantly pointed out in his incredible video. I don't think internet access will amount to even 50% of the revenue of Starlink. ▶ this video

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@gadders2020-06 · in “SpaceX Starlink is now its own ASN and present at the Seattle Internet Exchange”

This [1] is a good youtube explanation of how a hybrid between Starlink and ground stations could still improve connectivity: [1] ▶ this video

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@cagenut2020-06 · in “FCC has “serious doubts” that SpaceX can deliver latencies under 100ms”

If you want a really great visualization and latency estimates for starlink check out the models and videos this guy came up with: link ▶ this video The comment from the FCC about it not accounting for "processing [&] routing" is kindof nonsense on its face, those are not novel problems they're already done by ever other router and switch, including several other satellite networks.

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@sneak2020-06 · in “Realtime Starlink Satellite Map”

The orbital planes top parts are all up there at high latitudes. The circle you are seeing is actually made up of several different orbital planes that swoop down toward/past the equator and then up/down to 60 degrees N/S. Seeing them move will make it clearer. Here’s an awesome visual explanation with a ton of other cool info: ▶ this video

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