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Bret Victor - Media for Thinking the Unthinkable

Colin McDonnell4 HN recommenders · recommended in 4 months, 2015–2026
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Bret Victor's 2013 MIT Media Lab talk argues that the media we think with determine which thoughts are possible. He demos new representations for scientific papers, circuits, filters and signal processing.

HN treats it as one of the canonical Bret Victor talks, cited whenever discussion turns to better tools and interfaces for thinking.

9 comments from Hacker News

@boomlinde2023-05 · in “Ask HN: How do you approach a problem you are not sure has a solution?”

I look for different ways of representing the problem domain or the desired outcome. This will improve your vocabulary/toolbox for reasoning about and subdividing them into more approachable units. For some inspiration, I recommend watching this talk by Bret Victor ▶ this video (Media for Thinking the Unthinkable)

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@yesenadam2023-01 · in “Ask HN: Has anyone fully attempted Bret Victor's vision?”

For the people asking who is Bret Victor: When "What are your favourite tech talks of all time?" is asked on HN, he gets more mentions than anyone else, usually. Some of his talks: Inventing on Principle link The Future of Programming link The Humane Representation of Thought link Media for Thinking the Unthinkable ▶ this video Seeing Spaces link Drawing Dynamic Visualizations link link

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@vignesh_warar2021-08 · in “A visual introduction to Gaussian Belief Propagation”

What a great article - and the way it's presented is insanely great. It reminds me of a talk given by Bret Victor ▶ this video (Media for Thinking the Unthinkable)

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@magicink812020-12 · in “Learnable Programming (2012)”

You make a great point about notations becoming more abstract for more advanced use cases, indeed this may be a "natural" process. However I'd like to add nuance with the observation that Bret may not be suggesting that we reverse the trend from abstract notation back to concrete visualizations. Actually I think he is calling for a rich variety of visual/concrete notations and symbolic/abstract notations that work in concert together to express our dynamic concepts, and extending those with the use of the dynamism of the computing medium to add interactive aspects to the notations (ala "Magic Ink"). His talk "Media for thinking the unthinkable" goes into detail on this, especially from minute 10 to minute 17: ▶ this video The essay Magic Ink: INFORMATION SOFTWARE AND THE GRAPHICAL INTERFACE also goes into detail about this topic link

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@snorwick2026-01 · in “Lights and Shadows”

There is the “tools for thought” space I came across where some work felt compelling for computer enabled teaching and learning. Bret Victor [0], Andy Matuschak [1], and Seymour Papert [2] to point to a few names. [0] ▶ this video [1] link [2] link