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High School Debate at 350 wpm - Wired

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A Wired short on competitive high school policy debate, where students speak at around 350 words per minute. It shows how a nerdy contest turned into a high-speed spectacle.

HN mostly cites it as an example of speed-talking debate, usually critically, in threads about the Gish gallop and debate culture.

7 comments from Hacker News

@shortrounddev22023-07 · in “How critical theory is radicalizing high school debate”

High school debate is not a good event for this kind of argumentation. It's a very technical event with stupid rules and ridiculous "speeches" which consiset of someone screaming facts at you at 300wpm in between gasps of air ▶ this video

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@phoenixreader2023-07 · in “How critical theory is radicalizing high school debate”

fun fact: an average "policy debate" speaker speaks 350 words per minute and is completely unintelligible to an average person. They speak faster than auctioneers. A "policy debate" is not your average debate and is more like its own sport. The goal is to cram so many arguments into the limited time that your opponents cannot address them all. Watch these and you definitely cannot understand them: ▶ this video link Even the Onion could not have written a better skit.

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@hairofadog2022-10 · in “Liz Truss resigns as UK prime minister”

I agree; the video in the comment above yours was edited specifically to focus hate on a couple of high school students. While I have to admit I'm not a fan of that debate style, if you want to know the context behind it, there's an episode of Radiolab on the topic: link The short version is that it seems to have been a response and rebellion to what was already an arguably ridiculous style of competitive "debating": ▶ this video

@a9h74j2020-11 · in “Microsoft patents tech to score meetings with body language, facial expressions”

"Policy"-style debate[1][2]. What happens when metrics must be gamed to win. State as many points as you can while gasping for breath. Coming to coworkers near you. [1] ▶ this video [2] link

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@bobbiechen2020-05 · in “Gish Gallop”

A particularly ridiculous version of this is "spreading" in debate, where you speak extremely fast so that your opponent has difficulty addressing all your points. Wired video with some interviews: ▶ this video And a transcribed video from a highly-prepped debate: link