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Collateral Murder - Wikileaks - Iraq

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WikiLeaks' release of cockpit footage from a 2007 US Apache helicopter attack in Baghdad that killed a group of men including two Reuters staff, and then a van that came to help the wounded. The video includes the crew's radio chatter and context on the milit…

HN cites it as the key evidence of what Chelsea Manning leaked and as an example of civilian deaths in war, with some early commenters disputing how to read the footage.

12 comments from Hacker News

@dotancohen2021-11 · in “Israeli spyware company NSO Group placed on US blacklist”

Unfortunately the US is well-known for actually actively engaging civilians. ▶ this video Whether or not that is an isolated incident is irrelevant. The US has a reputation for shooting civilians. The US media doesn't help either, often portraying soldiers shooting civilians even in fiction.

@stickfigure2020-06 · in “India bans TikTok, WeChat, and dozens of other Chinese apps”

Do you mean this video, "Collateral Murder", which is currently available on Youtube? ▶ this video Doesn't look very banned to me.

@EForEndeavour2019-06 · in “Julian Assange: Home Secretary Signs US Extradition Request”

Physically sickening. [Voice 1] Well it's their fault for bringing their kids into a battle. [Voice 2] That's right. ( ▶ this video "Battle" my ass.

@StanislavPetrov2019-05 · in “Chelsea Manning released from jail with expiration of grand jury”

I think its pretty clear that she refused to testify out of principle. None of the war criminals exposed by Manning's leaks have been charged or tried for their crimes. The government's refusal to charge the war crimes, which are central to the entire case, completely undermine any pretense of "justice". As usual, the government is using its infinite power to punish those who exposed wrongdoing, while completely ignoring the actually wrongdoing that was exposed. I find it quite admirable that Manning refuses to be used as a tool to further this charade of injustice, at great personal expense. Being held in "contempt of court" is no vice when the court, and the prosecutors, have done everything possible to earn that contempt. For those unfamiliar with the still unprosecuted war crimes exposed by Manning (and published by Assange): ▶ this video

@mmjaa2018-03 · in “Adrian Lamo has died”

She's a hero if someone says she is, and that's all there is to it. I think she was a brave, selfless person in doing what she did, and I'm glad that the US got its ass handed to it in this way. American military crimes are heinous, and the entire nation is doing nothing effective about it. There are millions of people suffering because the American public are too cowardly to confront their own military. So by sticking her neck out and releasing the Collateral Murder videos, she is most definitely my hero. (EDIT: s/Damage/Murder/ - this video: ▶ this video )