Germany Reacts to Trump's UNGA Speech
Bloomberg NewsCited 18× on HN, 2022–2026
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A short Bloomberg clip from the 2018 UN General Assembly. Trump warns that Germany will become dependent on Russian energy, and German delegates are shown reacting with laughter.
Cited in 2022 energy-crisis threads, mostly critically, as proof that Germany was warned about Russian gas dependence.
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EU has had a lot of time to recognize the situation they have been in regarding energy. Sorry, but this will never not be not amusing. Where Trump being a stopped clock warns the UN about relying on foreign energy and the German delegation laughs as they were shutting down their nuclear and increasing reliance on Russia for energy. ▶ this video
>until they elect a president that throws allies under the bus (I.e. NATO, NAFTA, etc) Based on recent news, Trump has done more for NATO rearmament than any US president in history. Gee, maybe sometimes drastic steps are needed when 20 years of three other presidents doing everything but stand on their heads while begging other NATO members to spend more on their own defense failed. Trump was lambasted by the usual bien-pensant suspects when he told NATO this in 2018 < link >. He was right when at the UN he warned against Western European dependence on Russian energy, for which the German foreign minister and others laughed at him < ▶ this video >. And remember, Trump isn't even in office now; he's already done more for Western collective defense than a) the putative current president and b) an actual land war in Europe! >and gives state secrets to enemies Repeat this often enough and maybe it'll come true one day!
> What senile, old, corrupt and/or stupid politicians decide isn't necessarily the rational choice, and in fact is often the opposite. For example, these smirking German assholes, who I would have enjoyed seeing being interviewed last winter after Russia knocked the dumb smirks off their faces: ▶ this video
> or see a Soros conspiracy behind every criticism of certain idols Idols, Soros conspiracy... And you accuse others of being stupid. A simple idea, shady practices on the part of a platform are not OK if what you want, as you say, is trust. > I have some crypto coins to sell you too. I'm sure you have. You were left holding the bag in the subreddit you've mentioned. > the FSB has fascinating manuals on exactly this topic. Highly recommended reading. Right, they've sent you a copy. You and your government, the idiots who can be seen laughing [1][2] when told they should not depend on Russian energy. "I don't really understand what he means by that ha-ha-ha", tells your genius defense minister. [1]: ▶ this video [2]: link
If opposing "dictators and warmongers" is so important, why were European NATO members so unprepared for the 2022 war? Poland, the Baltics, and other ex-Warsaw Pact countries by and large did their best to wean themselves off the Russian oil and gas teat they fed from during the Cold War, even while Germany and other far wealthier countries did their best to suckle ever more from the same teat. Since energy is fungible, the far higher prices they are now having to pay affect them and the rest of the world, even those like the US and UK that never relied on Russian energy themselves, but at least Poland and the Baltics tried their best. It's also entirely possible that greater European investment in defense might have dissuaded Russia from the February invasion. Or, at the least, be able to contribute now more than the relatively paltry sums and supplies they have so far sent. Again, the ex-Communist countries by and large both met the 2% GDP spending guideline that their far wealthier NATO fellow members have mostly ignored, and are sending as much gear as they can without endangering their own defense. Sweden and Finland's militaries were and are far better prepared than the average NATO member despite (or, perhaps, because of) not being part of the alliance. Consider two moments five years ago: 1) Trump and NATO secretary-general and former Norwegian PM Jens Stoltenberg argue on camera (video < link >, article < link >) about dependence on Russia. Who turned out to be r
Anyone remember this viral clip of Germany reacting to Trump's UNGA speech about relying on Russian energy? ▶ this video
German delegation’s response at UNGA when Trump says “Germany will become totally dependent on Russian energy if it does not immediately change course.” ▶ this video
That never sounded good to anybody with good judgement. Russia is largely self sufficient for basic goods (food, energy), meaning that while their economy takes a hit, it’s a financial problem more than an existential crisis. The same can’t be said for Germany, who have systematically destroyed domestic energy production and now are facing an unprecedented economic catastrophe. Not just a financial problem, but a real economic problem of being able to acquire sufficient quantities of the basic inputs to a contemporary first world economy. Trump famously pointed out the folly of this strategy to a chorus of arrogant snickering from the contingent of German bureaucrats. Not so funny now… ▶ this video
>Trump blurted that to the Germans around 2019. The press brushed it off as "highly misleading". And the Germans literally laughed in his face: ▶ this video Pretty hard to watch now. The smugness is palpable.
Let's name names. Trump, the abovementioned president, at the UN in 2018 warns that Germany is endangering itself by increasing dependence on Russia. German envoys laugh < ▶ this video >, including foreign minister Heiko Maas, today enjoying a quiet retirement back home in Saarland.
>“Ninety-nine per cent of the text of the articles of association is about climate and environmental protection, but 99 per cent of the money comes directly from Nord Stream II AG, which belongs to Gazprom.” >“It’s quite a curious foundation. It is a puppet construction,” said Sascha Müller-Kraenner, head of Environmental Action Germany, a green charity, which is challenging the legality of the organisation both in the German courts and with the European Commission. link and German politicians from pretty much every single party have been taking bribes from Russia for years. Their energy policy of simultaneously shutting down coal but not spinning up any nuclear made them reliant on Russian natural gas, which they've been warned about by the US for years and are now paying the price for from 2019 - link and a video from 2018 of Germany's UN delegation quite literally laughing at the suggestion they'd be reliant on Russia for energy if they proceeded with Nordstream 2. Some good schadenfreude here- ▶ this video
Not just ignored. Trump at the UN warns that Germany is endangering itself by increasing dependence on Russia. [German envoys laugh.]( ▶ this video ). Among the comedians is Foreign Minister Heiko Maas, now enjoying a quiet retirement back home in Saarland. (The YouTube comments are hilarious.)