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Intersection design, the Dutch - cycle friendly - way

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A short BicycleDutch episode showing how Dutch protected intersections continue cycle paths through the junction without needing extra street width.

HN uses it as the standard reference for how the Netherlands solves cyclist and driver conflicts at intersections.

11 comments from Hacker News

@IkmoIkmo2015-08 · in “Münster’s iconic ‘waste of space’ photo keeps on giving”

Welcome :) There's quite a few interesting videos on traffic design in the Netherlands, junction design is a big topic, as well as separating lanes. Videos like these might be fun to watch: ▶ this video If it piques your interest, there's more comprehensive videos too like this one which is still only 5 minutes: link

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@jmyeet2022-06 · in “Investigating the effects of bike lanes in Minneapolis”

People not familiar with the US may not realize just how hostile US cities are to cyclists (and pedestrians). Some examples: 1. Turning right at red lights. Legal in most of the US. This is a huge safety issue for pedestrians and cyclists; 2. Many streets don't even have widewalks; 3. Many major roads don't even have any form of pedestrian crossings. For example, I had Google Maps tell me to just run across an 8 lane highway (at least there was somewhere safe to stand in the middle) where the speed limit was 45mph. Why? There was absolutely no alternative. In comparison, many freeways or highways in other countries will regularly have dedicated pedestrian crossing bridges. 4. In cities with a dedicated cycling lane in many US cities it gets used as extra parking, forcing cyclists out onto the road. Some I have sympathy for (eg delivery drivers) but many other people just don't give a shit they're blocking a lane of traffic and creating a safety issue. 5. Many Americans never walk anywhere so are an annoyance (if not an outright safety hazard) on any space shared with cyclists. I routinely see runners refuse to get out of the way in a dedicated cycle path . Many are oblivious and will just walk onto a cycle path without looking. I've had many near-misses this way. So there are a lot of things you can do to improve this situation, most of which doesn't take exttra room. For example: 1. Netherlands style intersections designed to improve cyclist safety [1]; 2. Suburbia is domina

@Muximize2020-12 · in “Sharrows, the bicycle infrastructure that doesn’t work and nobody wants”

It's one of the things Copenhagen can learn from the Netherlands, where it's a solved problem at most intersections: link ▶ this video Also see link from 6 minutes on for right turns in Copenhagen.

@Xylakant2019-06 · in “Roads with protected bike lanes make both cycling and driving safer: study”

The Dutch have that figured out, too. There’s so many bicycles around that you practically have to expect them everywhere any time. More bicycles make all bicycles safer. Intersections of car lanes and bike lines should also be designed in such a fashion that the lanes meet mostly at a right angle. Sharp turns and buffer spaces. A sharp turn slows the car traffic and the right angle at the intersecting point makes it easy to check for crossing (cycle) traffic. See for example this video ▶ this video

@bane2017-06 · in “Why is cycling so popular in the Netherlands?”

The impression I got from Amsterdam is that the city (and by extension the Dutch) has simply accepted all the behaviors that cyclists will do in a less cyclist friendly environment (run stop signs, ignore pedestrians, turn without signing and so on), and then just built infrastructure to support that natural behavior. As a pedestrian unfamiliar with the city, at first I found it hugely annoying that so little space was left to pedestrians, but once I figured out where not to stand, I started to have a much better appreciation for how it contributes the functioning of the city. In fact, I was kind of surprised at how little boat traffic there is these days. Having read and watched some videos on how the Netherlands does road planning for safety, the approach seems to be a much more "descriptive" approach to adapting road shapes and forms and cycle lanes to the natural behavior of people using those modes of transportation. For example, squeezing the width of lanes down naturally causes car drivers to slow rather than covering the area with signs telling drivers to slow down. This approach is slowly being adopted elsewhere ( link ). Lots of thought also into mixed-mode junction design link ▶ this video