Noam Chomsky Thought Control In Democratic Societies NEW!
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A lecture by Noam Chomsky on thought control in democratic societies, covering propaganda and manufacturing consent. The upload has no description.
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12 comments from Hacker News
>working as intended then ? Yes... the whole of education is to make society ignorant of reality. See here: link Then below... Our brains are much worse at reality and thinking than thought. Science on reasoning: link Protectionism for the rich and big business by state intervention, radical market interference. link Manufacturing consent: ▶ this video link "Intended as an internal document. Good reading to understand the nature of rich democracies and the fact that the common people are not allowed to play a role." Crisis of democracy link Education as ignorance link Testing theories of representative government link
>This seems to hint at the problem. You (the left) conflate freedom and equality Actually it's because most people are ignorant. AKA we can be manipulated to believe things against our interest. Science on reasoning: link "Intended as an internal document. Good reading to understand the nature of rich democracies and the fact that the common people are not allowed to play a role." Crisis of democracy link link Democracy Inc. link Testing theories of representative government link Overthrowing other peoples governments link Protectionism for the rich and big business by state intervention, radical market interference. link Energy subsidies link Intereference in other states when the rich/corporations dont get their way link Manufacturing consent (book) link Manufacturing consent(vids): ▶ this video link
>I've never even heard of this, Then you should read up on history. Our brains are much worse at reality and thinking than thought. Science on reasoning: link Overthrowing other peoples governments link Wikileaks on TTIP/TPP/ETC link Protectionism for the rich and big business by state intervention, radical market interference. link Energy subsidies link Intereference in other states when the rich/corporations dont get their way link From war is a racket: "I helped make Mexico, especially Tampico, safe for American oil intersts in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefits of Wall Street. The record of racketeering is long. I helped purify Nicaragua for the international banking house of Brown Brothers in 1909-1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for American sugar interests in 1916. In China I helped to see to it that Standard Oil went its way unmolested."[p. 10] "War is a racket. ...It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives." [p. 23] "The general public shoulders the bill [for war]. This bill renders a horrible accounting. Newly placed gravestones. Mangled bodies. Shattered minds. Broken hearts and homes. Economic instability. Depression and all its attendant miseries. Back-breaking taxation for generations and generations." [p. 24] General Butler is especially t
"But I'd much rather have this than every other social system, where the sociopaths fuck over the common people unchecked." You already live in that society, you're just unaware of it. The (mass surveillance) by the NSA and abuse by law enforcement is just more part and parcel of state suppression of dissent against corporate interests. They're worried that the more people are going to wake up and corporate centers like the US and canada may be among those who also awaken. See this vid with Zbigniew Brzezinski, former United States National Security Advisor. link Brezinski at a press conference link Major powers, and imposing control over the awakened masses. link Important: link First, our brains are much worse at reality and thinking than thought. AKA we can be manipulated to believe things against our interest. Science on reasoning: link "Intended as an internal document. Good reading to understand the nature of rich democracies and the fact that the common people are not allowed to play a role." Crisis of democracy link link Democracy Inc. link Testing theories of representative government link Protectionism for the rich and big business by state intervention, radical market interference. link Energy subsidies link Manufacturing consent: ▶ this video link
"It's so disappointing to me to hear a quote like that from the President." Then you need to get informed how democracy works... Our brains are much worse at reality and thinking than thought. AKA we can be manipulated to believe things against our interest. Science on reasoning: link "Intended as an internal document. Good reading to understand the nature of rich democracies and the fact that the common people are not allowed to play a role." Crisis of democracy link link Democracy Inc. link Testing theories of representative government link Protectionism for the rich and big business by state intervention, radical market interference. link Energy subsidies link Manufacturing consent: ▶ this video link
"There's nothing inherently wrong with a lobbyist. They're there to help inform representatives. " You are naive. "Intended as an internal document. Good reading to understand the nature of rich democracies and the fact that the common people are not allowed to play a role." Crisis of democracy link link Our brains are much worse at reality and thinking than thought. Science on reasoning: link Manufacturing consent (book) link Protectionism for the rich and big business by state intervention, radical market interference. link Manufacturing consent: ▶ this video link Testing theories of representative government link Democracy Inc link
The problem you're not seeing is that no law will ever be passed that goes against it because the rich people that have been ruling you for the past 200+ years don't want it. You don't seem to be historically literate at all. I suggest chomsky. And the book by the trilateral commission. Book link: link Crisis of democracy - chomsky link Manufacturing consent: ▶ this video link
"Media organizations have several proven strategies to push our buttons: voyeurism, outrage, greed, fear, prurience and envious aspiration are at the top." Goes way beyond that... First, our brains are much worse at reality and thinking than thought. Science on reasoning: link Manufacturing consent: ▶ this video link The corporate attack on education: link
"but that they were launching active attacks and using the results in an unethical manner, i.e. to conduct possibly-illegal criminal investigations." That's the history of the US in an nutshell. You really need to bone up on your history... link Our brains are much worse at reality and thinking than thought. Science on reasoning: link Protectionism for the rich and big business by state intervention, radical market interference. link Energy subsidies link Intereference in other states when the rich/corporations dont get their way link From war is a racket: "I helped make Mexico, especially Tampico, safe for American oil intersts in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefits of Wall Street. The record of racketeering is long. I helped purify Nicaragua for the international banking house of Brown Brothers in 1909-1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for American sugar interests in 1916. In China I helped to see to it that Standard Oil went its way unmolested."[p. 10] "War is a racket. ...It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives." [p. 23] "The general public shoulders the bill [for war]. This bill renders a horrible accounting. Newly placed gravestones. Mangled bodies. Shattered minds. Broken hearts and homes. Economic instability. Depression and all its attendant mise
First realize what is going on and why, watch the science video, then manufacturing consent then the rest. The elites fear political awakening, thats why all this is happening. First, our brains are much worse at reality and thinking than thought. Science on reasoning: link The (mass surveillance) by the NSA and abuse by law enforcement is just more part and parcel of state suppression of dissent against corporate interests. They're worried that the more people are going to wake up and corporate centers like the US and canada may be among those who also awaken. See this vid with Zbigniew Brzezinski, former United States National Security Advisor. link Brezinski at a press conference link The real news: link link link link Protectionism for the rich and big business by state intervention, radical market interference. link Wikileaks link Manufacturing consent: ▶ this video link The Citibank memo link link link US distribution of wealth link link The Centre for Investigative Journalism link Some history on US imperialism by us corporations. link From war is a racket: "I helped make Mexico, especially Tampico, safe for American oil intersts in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefits of Wall Street. The record of racketeering is long. I helped purify Nicaragua for the international banking house of Brown B
>Public debate precedes and informs whether a government will sign the TPP. Sorry to tell you this is just wrong, this is a project of empire, see below first science on reasoning: link Wikileaks link The Grand Chessboard: American Primacy And Its Geostrategic Imperatives link link Manufacturing consent: ▶ this video link Protectionism for the rich and big business by state intervention, radical market interference. link Other important info link link link The Citibank memo link link link US distribution of wealth link link The Centre for Investigative Journalism link
>I don't know what dedicated servers has to do with it? First see the science, I can tell you the facts and figures and you won't reason to the conclusion correctly. link If you wanted to avoid "back end problems" (aka problems with 'stressing servers' because of your desire for locked down games where the server code is never released to the public) then you should allow gamers to run their own servers using server software like what games did in the 90's - problem solved. The corporate world basically stole gamers ability to own and run servers and since most gamers are 100's of miles away from these game companies they get away with it. The free market simply cannot work when buyer and seller are 100's of miles away from each other, the seller has a huge advantage, all the outraged customers can't patrol outside the company and give the people there an earful for being corrupt criminal bastards. Free market is a fantasy held onto by people who don't know much about how the real world works and gullibly believe the false ideological propaganda in the universities. Protectionism for the rich and big business by state intervention, radical market interference. link Crisis of democracy link Manufacturing consent: ▶ this video link