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Indistinguishable From Magic: Manufacturing Modern Computer Chips

Andor Gafotas19 HN recommenders · recommended in 18 months, 2016–2024
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A HOPE09 talk on how modern computer chips are manufactured, from 22nm transistors to ultra-clean fabs and the tricks used to pattern tiny features with light. It frames chipmaking as hacking electrical engineering and physics.

HN repeatedly calls it the best in-depth introduction to IC manufacturing, a sense-of-awe talk by an independent engineer, while wishing for an updated version.

12 comments from Hacker News

@gary_02024-07 · in “Standard cells: Looking at individual gates in the Pentium processor”

It takes years just to figure out how to use the machines to produce actual working chips. They're the most specialized, intricate, expensive machines in the world. They're operated in enormous clean rooms that only allow for 1 half-micron sized particle per cubic foot. No fab is going to run them without exactly following the procedures they have spent billions developing and testing. They are also going to avoid potential delays as much as possible because these machines have to be running for as much of their useful life as possible to recoup the vast expense. The level of risk-averseness is insane, but warranted. If you haven't watched this video, I highly recommend it: Indistinguishable From Magic: Manufacturing Modern Computer Chips ▶ this video It's a little outdated now, but very comprehensive and gives you an idea of how totally nuts the chip business is.

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@TrainedMonkey2020-04 · in “To make a perfect mirror, physicists confront the mystery of glass”

If you think this is cool, watch this video. I've linked a relevant to the comment portion, but entire video is amazing: ▶ this video P.S. if anyone knows a more modern version of this talk, I would love to see it.

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@olliej2020-03 · in “Intel Video Shows How It Makes a 10nm Processor”

I found this to be basically an ad. My favourite video on them is this one from many years ago, it’s a presentation by an engineer not being paid by a fab: ▶ this video

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@sl-12019-12 · in “Intel’s Manufacturing Roadmap from 2019 to 2029”

Best resource I have run in to about this is this talk: ▶ this video It quickly introduces the various hacks we do in order to get ~30nm features on silicon. But the talk is quite dated (early 2010's), but never ceases to amaze me. Semiconductors are indistinguishable from magic indeed.

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@Qub3d2018-10 · in “Ask HN: What are some of the best technical talks you've heard?”

Indistinguishable From Magic: Manufacturing Modern Computer Chips [0]. This talk is delivered really well and always leaves me with a sense of awe in how CRAZY it is that humans figured out integrated circuits. Its a bit out of date, but it gives enough of a peek under the hood to understand why Intel has had such difficulties going to 10 and 7mn processes[1]. [0]: ▶ this video [1]: link

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