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Shockwave traffic jams recreated for first time

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A one-minute New Scientist clip showing a Japanese experiment in which drivers on a circular track produce a spontaneous traffic jam that travels backward. It illustrates phantom traffic jams without any obstacle.

It is the go-to demonstration HN links whenever traffic shockwaves, phantom jams or cascading failures come up.

12 comments from Hacker News

@DigitalJack2013-10 · in “How traffic actually works”

This article accounts for some of what causes traffic jams, but have a look at this video. It shows a study done where people tried to drive on a circular track at a constant speed. Things start out okay, but it quickly devolves into the back propagating wave. ▶ this video

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@asdff2026-02 · in “Hard-braking events as indicators of road segment crash risk”

▶ this video This is the natural response of tapping the brakes for any slowdown: people naturally over compensating and chain reactions happening behind them. This video shows how stop and go traffic forms and snowballs with no real impetus beyond mis estimated follow distance.

@mitthrowaway22025-07 · in “A short post on short trains”

I'm going to double-down on this point because it does matter. In the real world some people are tailgating, but that does not cause traffic jams if and only if the road is running below peak capacity, where negative feedback self-corrects those traffic density deviations and gradually smooths everything back out. (Unless the tailgater causes a crash, of course). But if the average following distance is such that the road is exactly at the peak of throughput, or any smaller, then any momentary dip into tighter following distances pushes the road it into a positive feedback operating mode, which triggers a traffic jam. If you haven't seen it, here is a classic experiment demonstrating the effect: ▶ this video (But obviously the solution to traffic isn't 5 more lanes, it's viable alternatives to driving!)

@8note2025-06 · in “Congestion pricing in Manhattan is a predictable success”

as far as i can read, your argument is that traffic jams are impossible, because congestion acts as a dynamic cost function to keep the road at its highest utility, when the throughput is highest. unless you disagree with the that definition of the utility of the road? how do you explain phenomena like shockwave traffic jams, where otherwise high utility roads get sections of nearly stopped traffic. eg. ▶ this video in a closed system (30s of video) can you spend some time showing your work, and both propose and prove what the cost function of congestion is? then, it should be clear whether the government set cost is higher or lower, and under what conditions. id especially want to see the limiting behaviour - standstill traffic. my gur sense is that the cost of congestion should be going towards infinity, but im interested in how the constant value from the government is still higher.

@cyanydeez2024-03 · in “My Clients, the Liars”

▶ this video basically, people are dealing with a ghost. you have one person suddenly stop and now there's a permanent kink in the behavior of the traffic.