Apple CEO Tim Cook: The VICE News Tonight Interview (HBO)
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A 2018 VICE News Tonight interview with Apple CEO Tim Cook, in which he discusses privacy as a core company value, the Facebook breach, and Apple's iCloud arrangement in China.
Commenters cite it as a primary source for Cook's own words on Apple's privacy stance and on how iCloud data is handled in China.
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6 comments from Hacker News
I looked at your other comments so I know you're one of the bad faith FUD peddlers. But for anyone else that didn't click through to the thread I linked, you can hear it from the horse's mouth right here: ▶ this video
Replying to this just for anyone else that reads this later: Tim Cook confirmed this was still the case in this 2018 interview with Vice. ▶ this video
Transcript of relevant section: ▶ this video > VICE News: In terms of privacy as a human right, does that apply to how you do business in China? > Apple CEO Tim Cook: It absolutely does. Encryption for us is the same in every country in the world. We don't design encryption for, you know, for the US and do it differently everywhere else. It's the same. And so to send a message in China, it's encrypted. I can't produce the content. I can't produce it in the United States either. If you lock your phone in China, I can't open it. > The thing in China that some people have confused is certain countries, and China's one of them, has a requirement that data from local citizens has to be kept in China. We worked with a Chinese company to provide iCloud. But the keys, which are- which is the "key" so to speak, pardon the pun, are ours. > VICE: But haven't they moved to China, meaning it's much easier for the Chinese government to get to them? > Cook: No, I wouldn't- I wouldn't get caught up in the, uh, "where's the location" of it. I mean, we have servers located in many different countries in the world. It's- they're not easier to get data, uh, from being in one country versus the next. The key question is, how does the encryption process work, and who owns the keys if anyone. In most cases for us, you and the receiver own the keys. VICE interviews are not held under penalty of perjury, of course, but we may give Apple's CEO the benefit of the doubt. As Mr. Cook acknowledges, Apple did m
No offense, but I think that your suggested statement would only lead to serious escalation for media enquiries, especially since this story came 2 days after the interview of the Apple CEO [1], where he underlined that privacy (and the relevant security measures) constitutes the core value of the company. [1] ▶ this video
I've posted this a number of times before but it's apparently not common knowledge (and for good reason Apple doesn't seem to talk about their situation in China often). Apple's position in China is completely consistent with the rest of the world. In filings to a court during the FBI legal fight, Apple addressed this topic head on. The reason it was brought up in the first place was because national security establishment water holders were putting out the idea that Apple makes exceptions for China, and the Department of Justice parroted it [1]. From Apple's filing [2]: >Finally, the government attempts to disclaim the obvious international implications of its demand, asserting that any pressure to hand over the same software to foreign agents “flows from [Apple’s] decision to do business in foreign countries . . . .” Opp. 26. Contrary to the government’s misleading statistics (Opp. 26), which had to do with lawful process and did not compel the creation of software that undermines the security of its users, Apple has never built a back door of any kind into iOS, or otherwise made data stored on the iPhone or in iCloud more technically accessible to any country’s government. See Dkt. 16-28 [Apple Inc., Privacy, Gov’t Info. Requests]; Federighi Decl. ¶¶ 6–7. The government is wrong in asserting that Apple made “special accommodations” for China (Opp. 26), as Apple uses the same security protocols everywhere in the world and follows the same standards for responding to law enf
Here's the exact time stamp so you can hear his answer yourself: ▶ this video >Why are public statements about privacy always about the US or EU but never China? As much as Apple/Cook may believe privacy is a human right, and have seemingly extracted some important concessions regarding their products, they aren't going to shoot themselves in the head so everyone can feel good about Apple publicly standing up to the CPC. That's a job for governments (the recent efforts by the Trump administration to reset the relationship with China is a good example).