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Crossing the Street Shouldn't Be Deadly (but it is)

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Not Just Bikes explains why crossing streets is dangerous in the US and Canada, where roads are designed to move cars fast, and contrasts it with Dutch designs for pedestrians.

Linked in road-safety threads as a good explanation of how street and signal design prevent pedestrian deaths.

7 comments from Hacker News

@pronlover7232022-09 · in “The most dangerous road for cyclists in America”

You're looking for fault and there's something to that but there's also just re-designing the streets to prevent the accidents in the first place ▶ this video also link

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@dagurp2022-09 · in “The most dangerous road for cyclists in America”

I'm not talking about markings, I'm talking about designing crossings so that pedestrians and cyclist don't have to watch out for turning cars and improving traffic lights so that pedestrians and cyclist don't feel the need to run red lights. Here are two really good videos about this that talk about this: - ▶ this video - link

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@Mawr2023-10 · in “Automakers invented the crime of jaywalking (2015)”

The best example is that even your curious question comes with a car-minded implicit assumption that it's the pedestrian who is crossing, not the car. In a pedestrian-centric design, cars are the ones who cross. See ▶ this video .

@jodrellblank2022-12 · in “P-22 Has Died”

See the youtube channel Not Just Bikes[1], specifically videos like - "Why the Dutch wait less at traffic lights" - link argues that American traffic engineering is optimised for car movement, at the expense of pedestrians and bikes, whereas Dutch traffic engineering is to minimise conflict between vehicles and maximise movement of people overall. Leading to more complex but more efficient intersections. - "The Dutch solution for safer sidewalks - continuous sidewalks" - link has crossings at junctions where cars and people intersect designed so the cars visibly have to travel over the sidewalk through the people's area, instead of designed so the people have to visibly travel over the road, through the car's area. - "Crossing the street shouldn't be dangerous, but it is" [in North America] - ▶ this video talking about length of crossings on wide road, traffic signals, priorities, etc. [1] link

@gcanyon2022-11 · in “The Exceptionally American Problem of Rising Roadway Deaths”

Not Just Bikes on YouTube covers road/pedestrian/bike safety extensively. link Specific videos: Crossing the street should be safer: ▶ this video How to quickly build a cycling city: link Wasting money on car infrastructure: link The wrong way to set speed limits: link Safe cycling: link "Stroads" are dangerous: link