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Dutch Cities are Better for the Environment (and my sanity)

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Not Just Bikes explains why living in a dense, bikeable Dutch city sharply reduced his family's environmental footprint and improved quality of life. It is a collaboration that continues on Climate Town.

HN cites it in threads on sprawl, density, and climate, especially for the point that everything is a short bike ride from downtown Amsterdam.

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@fayten2022-03 · in “Americans do not want to return to urban living”

There are quite a few factors, I'd encourage checking out the following videos by Not Just Bikes and Climate Towns that cover a broad range of city planning and zoning in the US. Strong Towns Play List by Not Just Bikes (This heavily covers city planning issues in the US): link The Suburbs Are Bleeding America Dry by Climate Towns (This covers zoning): link How The Auto Industry Carjacked The American Dream (This covers the auto industries impact on US cities.): link Dutch Cities are Better for the Climate (and my sanity) by Not Just Bikes (Not super relevant to zoning, but it's part 1 of The Suburbs Are Bleeding America Dry so I figured I'd link it.): ▶ this video These are pretty snarky, but fun videos and the authors list their sources. Their video descriptions are worth checking out just to find a ton of reading material on each topic.

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@throw0101a2023-07 · in “(IEEE Spectrum) Your navigation app is making traffic unmanageable”

> Public. Transit. Non-car centric development. The Oh the Urbanity channel has a video on the (misguided) idea that "urban living" = Manhattan / Hong Kong apartment blocks : * link Want a front yard, back yard, and garage (attached to a laneway)? Plenty of that was built pre-WW2: * link * link Examples (Streetview): * link * link * link See also: * ▶ this video Fifteen minutes pedalling in one direction is downtown, fifteen minutes in the other is farm land.

@throw0101a2023-07 · in “The force that shapes everything around us: Parking”

> Convince people to live in smaller houses and share walls with their neighbors, and the parking situation would change dramatically. Completely unnecessary. Want a front yard, back yard, and garage (attached to a laneway)? Plenty of that was build pre-WW2: * link * link The Oh the Urbanity channel has a video on the (mistaken) idea that "urban living" = Manhattan / Hong Kong apartment blocks : * link Examples (Streetview): * link * link * link * link See also: * ▶ this video Fifteen minutes pedalling in one direction is downtown, fifteen minutes in the other is farm land.

@throw0101a2023-07 · in “The force that shapes everything around us: Parking”

> But there's a flip side to this coin. This isn't necessarily a desired "way of life", it's what naturally evolved due to severe space constraints. There is nothing 'natural' about the evolution of NL cities as demonstrated by the fact that (e.g.) Amsterdam started to go down the car-centric route: * link It was a policy choice to not go in that direction—or rather to stop and turn away—as opposed to some kind of physical law of the universe. Not Just Bikes uses Rotterdam as an example of how even in NL† policy can go in other directions: * link My dad used to work at the post office facility in this area: * link In the early 1990s there used to be strawberries fields across the street, and now the entire area is filled with generic suburb strip malls. Perhaps agriculture would have gone away eventually, but there's no reason why it had car-centric, low-density development that replaced it. How close is agriculture to some NL cities? * ▶ this video > Suburbia can be denser but than it must be cheap. Dense expensive suburbia is the worst of all worlds. No: low-density expensive suburbia is the worst of all worlds because it necessitates cars, which has leads to all sorts of externality costs. The total OpEx is also much more expensive with low densities: * link And just because you have sprawl doesn't mean you have cheap housing: * link See LA and even the Greater Toronto area (GTA) as examples: * link † I use "NL" in the international ccTLD sense, and not in my Canadi

@throw0101b2023-06 · in “Electric cars are better for the environment, no matter the power source”

> Improved density is worse for people and the environment. The higher the density the less actual Nature needs to be bulldozed over for development. See: * ▶ this video Fifteen minutes pedalling in one direction is downtown, fifteen minutes in the other is farm land. By have more people in a given land area, the remaining land area can be left alone.