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Autonomous Testing and the Future of Software Development - Will Wilson

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Will Wilson explains autonomous testing: using deterministic simulation and fuzzing, building on FoundationDB's approach, to test software continuously. It sets out the ideas behind his later company Antithesis.

HN recommends it as an excellent talk on generalizing deterministic simulation testing, and Antithesis hiring posts link it to explain the work.

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@georgelyon2024-02 · in “Is something bugging you?”

Congratulations to the Antithesis team! I actually interviewed with them when they were just starting, and outside of being very technically proficient, they are also a great group of folks. They flew my wife and I out to DC on what happened to be the coldest day of the year that year (we are from California) so we didn’t end up following through but I’d like to think there is an alternative me out there in the multiverse hacking away on this stuff. I highly recommend Will’s talks (which I believe he links in the blog post): link ▶ this video

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@georgelyon2020-07 · in “Against Testing”

I very much agree with this sentiment, but it is difficult to endorse this line of reasoning without offering a better alternative. As folks have pointed out in other comments, there are other values to tests in the broad sense that the author doesn’t address. That said, if you are interested in improving the state of testing, I would encourage you to listen to Will Wilson’s excellent talk on the subject of Autonomous Testing: ▶ this video Indeed, FoundationDB (which Wilson worked on) has a very unique and sophisticated approach to testing that seems to have served them very well.

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@georgelyon2024-03 · in “Ask HN: Who is hiring? (March 2024)”

Really unique product with a super-strong founding team! I’m not a working with them, but am cheering from the sidelines. One of the founders gives a great talk here: ▶ this video

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@georgelyon2023-07 · in “FoundationDB: A Distributed Key-Value Store”

FoundationDB is a truly one-of-a-kind bit of technology. Others have already linked to the testing methodology that allows them to run orders of magnitude more database hours in test than have run in production: link A less known but also great talk is the follow which talked about what the a few of the team worked on next, effectively trying to generalize the methodology to any computer program: ▶ this video I liken the approach to being able to fuzz the execution space of the program, not just the inputs.

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@thecollins2024-10 · in “Ask HN: Who is hiring? (October 2024)”

Antithesis | Software Engineers (Kernel / Systems / Infra / Fullstack) | Northern VA | ONSITE | link Antithesis is using deterministic simulation, fuzzing, and novel ML techniques to improve software testing and increase developer velocity. See Will's talk ( ▶ this video ) for the ideas that underpin our approach or read the Simulation Testing section of link . We have a growing base of customers and great community buy-in. Fully funded medical, dental, and vision insurance. Unlimited vacation (with mandatory MINIMUM vacation time). Flexible hours. Incredible, cohesive team with the hardest and most interesting problems to solve. We're doing things nobody has done before, so we don't need familiarity with any particular language, framework, domain, or anything like that. Don't care. What we do care about: you're smart, get things done, a joy to work with, and are comfortable dealing with open-ended problems. Check out our blog for an examples of what we recently launched, e.g.: link Apply at link . We're also hiring for professional services roles. Feel free to ask about those, too.