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"How NOT to Measure Latency" by Gil Tene

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Gil Tene of Azul Systems explains common pitfalls in measuring latency and response time, including why averages mislead and the problem of coordinated omission. He introduces open source tools like HdrHistogram for better measurement and reporting.

The canonical recommendation whenever percentiles, tail latency, load testing or averages come up, described by some as life changing.

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@leetrout2023-05 · in “Grasshopper – An Open Source Python Library for Load Testing”

We use locust at work but I HIGHLY recommend wrk for a very robust yet simple load testing tool. link And of course, this talk by Gil Tene is fantastic if you're interested in load testing stats ▶ this video

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@wmfiv2020-04 · in “Ask HN: Must Read from ACM Library?”

This a life changing video by Gil Tene on this topic. Bottom line is because of the number requests to support a single customer "request", the high percentiles are the ones that actually matter. ▶ this video

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@Rafuino2019-04 · in “Averages Can Be Misleading: Try a Percentile (2014)”

This topic always leads me to think about this great talk from Gil Tene on how NOT to measure latencies (basically, don't use averages!). ▶ this video I'm also a huge fan of how Dormando showed latency distributions in one of his recent Memcached Extstore posts. The default is 95th percentile but you can change the percentile to what matters to you (i.e. 99th percentile if you ask me!). Scroll down to see what he did and play with it. link

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@vikiomega92016-08 · in “Throughput vs. Latency and Lock-Free vs. Wait-Free”

Doesn't this depend on how "tuned" your subcomponents are? If I had a system that's supposedly heavily optimized, I would simply start seeing the worst-case latency on a higher percentile, 99.9th and so forth. Gil Tene has an excellent talk[1] on this. [1] ▶ this video

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@super_linear2025-02 · in “How Not to Measure Latency (The P99 Lie) by GIL Tene”

Tried to link to the specific timestamp in the video, where the p99 lie is discussed. Core takeaway for me was that most users of a page will experience the p99 latency of the system: ▶ this video

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