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Tesla crashes into concrete barrier....ON AUTO PILOT!

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A short amateur clip of a Tesla Model S on Autopilot failing to follow a lane shift in a construction zone and hitting a concrete barrier. The uploader uses it to argue against driverless trucks.

Cited as a concrete example of Autopilot's limits whenever threads debate self-driving safety and Tesla's claims.

8 comments from Hacker News

@michaelt2020-02 · in “Apple engineer killed in Tesla crash had previously complained about autopilot”

LIDAR would have picked that up dead easily. Just like LIDAR would have picked up link And just like LIDAR would have picked up ▶ this video And just like LIDAR would have picked up link And just like LIDAR would have picked up link These accidents are 100% due to the decision to use a janky vision system to avoid spending $2000 on lidar; and that janky vision system failing.

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@Animats2019-08 · in “Contrary to Musk's claim, Lidar has some advantages in Self Driving technology”

So far, most manufacturers cars have no problem with this. Not Tesla. Tesla hitting construction barricade.[1] Tesla hitting freeway offramp divider.[2] [1] ▶ this video [2] link

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@StreamBright2019-04 · in “Ford CEO says the company 'overestimated' self-driving cars”

He is lucky if we have self driving cars by the end of the next decade. I am sorry but false positive and false negative situations are not ok when it comes to self driving cars and most if not all solution exist today are based on technologies that produce false positives and negatives. link ▶ this video

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@Animats2019-04 · in “AI Podcast: Elon Musk on Tesla Autopilot [video]”

I'll be shocked if it's not next year at the latest that having having a human intervene will decrease safety (22:32) For certain interpretations of "intervene", that's true now. See this video of a Tesla hitting a construction barrier.[1] This is a dashcam view from a car behind the Tesla. At 00:21, it's too early for the vehicle to start turning, and at 00:22, the vehicle has already hit the barrier. The driver has to detect the failure and then take over. Much of the driver's allowed reaction time is taken up by having to wait until it's almost too late. Control handoff inherently implies a slower reaction time than manual driving. (Not noticing the lane change warning and orange construction 45MPH speed limit sign back at 00:05 didn't help, either.) This is the problem with shared control, and why Waymo rejected it early on. [1] ▶ this video

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@MertsA2019-03 · in “After 6 months of working fine, Tesla software update drives at barriers again”

Here's autopilot swerving into oncoming traffic. link Here's autopilot following a lane straight into a concrete barrier. ▶ this video You can't assume that autopilot won't screw up lane following and swerve into a large obstacle. In those situations it's not as simple as making sure the lane ahead of you is clear, you might only have a split second warning between Autopilot going into "casual murder mode" and a collision.

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