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Louis C.K. Hates Cell Phones | CONAN on TBS

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Louis C.K. on Conan explains why he won't give his kids cell phones. He argues that phones keep people from sitting with sadness and being alone with their thoughts, and that kids lose empathy when they cannot see another person's reaction.

Commenters bring it up in threads on phones, boredom, attention and children's screen use as a funny but resonant take.

11 comments from Hacker News

@Apocryphon2021-06 · in “Stop overstimulating your mind with digital entertainment”

The best interpretation of this post is in its warnings against digital submersion, but when it veers into cultural critique it itself is being very middlebrow and dismissive ("just listen to classical music! Modern music sucks!") There is a good post in here about how externalizing negative emotion to the internet is indeed addictive behavior, an emotional crutch. Unfortunately this one ain't it. Not to mention it's hardly breaking new ground with this thesis- pre-cancellation Louis C.K. arrived at the same conclusion much more concisely nearly a decade ago: ▶ this video

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@jonplackett2021-06 · in “Doing something is better than doing nothing for most people: study (2014)”

This reminds me of a clip of Louis CK talking about losing the ability to just sit with your own thoughts and be really sad. ▶ this video Shame he turned out to be a sexual deviant because he said some interesting things.

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@whitepaint2021-04 · in “Dear Zuckerberg, We're writing to urge you to cancel Instagram for children [pdf]”

Everyone's insane so I must be as well. Come on man. I totally agree with the OP, take personal responsibility. You raise your children not Zuck. Louis CK had great comments about this: ▶ this video

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@itchynosedev2016-05 · in “Why I Deleted My Social Media Accounts”

Sometimes people coerce me into using services, eg development team found a cool service to manage the project issues or designers want to check out the tool to manage the assets. There's no way around it. I found password manager tools to be invaluable in maintaining the accounts, "fire and forget". They usually opt you in for the marketing emails, but unsubscribing is just one click away in 99% of the cases. You are spot on about the mobile devices enabling addictive behavior. I used to have an old Nokia phone, with physical buttons during the smartphones craze and wasn't able to consume entertainment media while away from my computer. I though I'd upgrade to be able to interact better with friends through WhatsApp and whatnot and realized how much more time I fill my brain with junk media, because the phone is always there hence everything is at the tip of the finger. Although, I found playing chess on my phone to be very convenient, it's been ages since I wanted to try to learn playing chess. Technology is a double-edged sword and it definitely requires to exert more self control. It's easy not to be bored, to be somewhere in between of being satisfied and not achieving or progressing much. I love this bit Louis CK did about smartphones, even though a bit jokish but rings true: ▶ this video

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@Smudge2014-04 · in “A Gossip App Brought My High School to a Halt”

It's no surprise that, when left unchecked, teenagers (whose brains actually lack some capacity for empathy) would generate extremely un-empathetic content. And it is certainly not limited to children -- adults can be just as bad or worse. This is a topic that has come up in different forms many times as the Internet has grown. One way to reign in the vitriol would be to force everyone to use their real names (see Google+'s 'real names' policy), but I don't feel this should ever be a requirement for participation in an online service. For the service itself to require it is one thing, but if the government ever tried to enforce this I'd consider it a human rights violation. (The debate over real names vs. pseudonymity vs. anonymity is a topic I could go into at much length). In the case of Yik Yak, rather than shifting blame onto the app, I instead wonder how/why any parents would allow their children to freely install such apps on their phones. Sure, kids will be kids (and will always find covert ways of misbehaving), but there should be some form of supervision available for parents of smartphone users, don't you think? I think Louis C.K. has a pretty smart perspective: ▶ this video

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