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Steve Jobs Insult Response

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A clip from Steve Jobs's 1997 WWDC session, in which he answers a hostile question from an audience member about Apple killing OpenDoc. He says to start with the customer experience and work back to the technology, and that saying no is part of focus.

Commenters link it as a canonical statement of Jobs's product philosophy and as an example of handling an insult calmly and articulately.

12 comments from Hacker News

@chx2017-12 · in “Apple and NeXT announce merger (1996)”

Watch Jobs in his prime a year later describing his philosophy: ▶ this video I am very far from an Apple fanboy but gosh, this guy totally gets it.

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@SenHeng2022-06 · in “Ask HN: How to talk with logical flow and coherence at interviews?”

Some good examples by Elon Musk and Steve Jobs described in this article. link This was probably one of Steve Job's most impressive example. ▶ this video

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@EricE2020-08 · in “Celebrate Woz's 70th”

Jobs was all of that and more. Modern personal computing wouldn't exist without his insistence at making "Computers for the rest of us". There were many quite pissed at Apple for selling pre-assembled, ready to use computers. It was thought that unless you could assemble your machine you didn't deserve it. Heck you see a lot of that attitude today in many open source projects. And that's just one way he pushed modern computing into what it is today. Did he perform every detail himself? Nope - that would be absurd. But he took things that until that time no one else correlated, and he correlated and pushed for them. Often with amazing presence. And it wasn't willy-nilly, either. I mean just look at the way he handled this OpenDoc troll: ▶ this video How many can compose themselves and deliver that kind of a response that quickly? Not many. So yeah, those who try to dismiss Jobs as just a marketing or product guy are only displaying their profound ignorance. I don't think Jobs was perfect - far from it. But he certainly did make a dent in the universe, and many others too - perhaps it is a good thing that people like Jobs are pretty rare but there is no doubt we would all be a lot poorer if he hadn't existed.

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@nirvana2011-10 · in “The last time I saw Steve Jobs”

I've been following Steve Jobs since I was a kid, about 30 years ago. Woz was more my hero then, but I read everything I could about Jobs even then, and ever since. I think Jobs transformed himself on a fundamental level. The young Steve seemed arrogant and self centered. Getting pushed out of Apple seems to have been a kick to the soul, and then in his 10 years away, he seems to have changed everything about him that was bad. Just check out how he responded to the insult given to him at the 1997 after WWDC session. ▶ this video Now that enough time has passed, all the people who were bashing Jobs from 1990-2011 are back bashing Jobs again. But I think these stories are the real guy. I was in his presence on a couple of occasions. You can fake some things, but its really hard to fake who you are. Everyone has their good and bad days... but one thing I can say about Steve, he was always genuine. Made him a great salesperson, too, cause even if he was wrong, he believed . So, I am grateful for these anecdotes. I'm eternally grateful for the 2005 commencement address. He was so private, and for good reason, and until the biography comes out these are some of the few views we have to him as a person. (I think the biography is going to be very revealing, and surprising when it comes out, since he's such a "control freak" but I think he didn't exercise any control, and people will be shocked.)

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@virgilp2022-02 · in “My seatbelt rule for judgment”

> But ultimately the people outside the company who said it was a poor move from a user POV turned out to be right. Survivor bias? I'm sure there were people outside the company who said removing the headphone jack was a poor move, removing the CD drive was a poor move, moving to Intel was a poor move, removing the HDMI was a poor move, removing the F-keys was a poor move etc. Eventually, some of those moves were reverted, some were not. Steve Jobs was exactly right: ▶ this video - you can please some of the people, some of the time. - some mistakes will be made along the way. That's good, because at least some decisions are being made - when we find the mistakes, we'll fix them.