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LISA11 - Fork Yeah! The Rise and Development of illumos

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Bryan Cantrill's LISA11 talk on how illumos arose after Oracle closed OpenSolaris. It covers the history of Sun, ZFS, DTrace and Zones, and the diaspora of kernel engineers, with a famous rant about Oracle and Larry Ellison.

HN points to it as the definitive, entertaining account of Sun's fate under Oracle, and quotes its Ellison lawnmower advice whenever Oracle behaves badly.

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@jiggawatts2020-03 · in “Oracle's history highlights a possible downside to its stance on API copyrights”

Whenever I hear Oracle mentioned it reminds me that it's once again time to re-watch the "Never make the mistake of anthropomorphising Larry Ellison" rant. ▶ this video

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@antoncohen2018-04 · in “Ask HN: What is your favourite tech talk?”

"Fork Yeah! The Rise and Development of illumos" by Bryan Cantrill ▶ this video He starts with a nice history of SunOS and Solaris, goes into open source, then midway through (33:00) he goes into a brutally honest rant against Oracle. Even better is that Oracle was one of the sponsors of the conference.

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@gbrown_2016-12 · in “"Solaris being canned, at least 50% of teams to be RIF'd in short term"”

> not a leaked version of it. It's a fork. If you're interested how it came to be check out this epic talk by Bryan Cantrill ▶ this video

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@Malic2016-10 · in “Ask HN: What's your favorite tech talk?”

grin Here we go... For "laughing at ourselves" and oddities of computer languages, there is "Wat" by Gary Bernhardt: link For an opinion on the Sun to Oracle transition, there is "Fork Yeah! The Rise and Development of illumos" by Bryan M. Cantrill, Joyent. His Larry Ellison rant makes me smile: ▶ this video

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@Sammi2026-07 · in “Five US tech giants' hidden debts soar to $1.65T on opaque AI funding”

You need to listen to what Bryan Cantrill said about his experience at Oracle, before you go there. > What you think of Oracle is even truer than what you think it is: "Shit mediocrity, inflict misery, lie our asses off, screw our customers, and make a whole shitload of money" ▶ this video > You need to think of Larry Ellison the way you think of a lawnmower. You don't anthropomorphize your lawnmower, the lawnmower just mows the lawn, you stick your hand in there and it'll chop it off, the end. You don't think 'oh, the lawnmower hates me' -- lawnmower doesn't give a shit about you, lawnmower can't hate you. Don't anthropomorphize the lawnmower. Don't fall into that trap about Oracle. ▶ this video

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