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Email Hates the Living

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A lightning-style conference talk by Ricardo Signes about the horrors of email: its protocols, formats and decades of accumulated quirks. It is delivered with a humorous horror theme to show why handling email correctly is harder than it looks.

HN points to it whenever someone underestimates how hard email parsing, validation or building a mail client really is.

Networking & internet infrastructureSoftware (other)#email#smtp#imap#mime

3 comments from Hacker News

@lkbm2022-04 · in “Stop Validating Email Addresses with Regex (2012)”

I've always loved the "Email Hates The Living" talk[0] and am sad it's not available in higher quality. This is a great alternative. [0] ▶ this video

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@calvinmorrison2022-08 · in “Email doesn't suck – it's email clients that need improving”

Here's a talk from one of the heads of Fastmail: "Email Hates the Living" ▶ this video Email itself is a very weird quirk filled system. If you want to read about the insanity behind some of the protocols watch that talk. That's why things like JMAP are being developed.

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@clscott2015-12 · in “Email made me miserable, so I decided to build my own email app from scratch”

This is an interesting read, when I saw a few of the comments here ask "how hard can it be?" I was reminded of this presentation by Rik Signes at YAPC::NA (2008) Email Hates the Living ▶ this video

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