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Why do Biden's votes not follow Benford's Law?

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Matt Parker examines claims that Biden's 2020 vote counts violate Benford's Law, explaining the law and why it often does not apply to precinct-level election data.

Commenters cite it as a visual debunking of Benford-based election fraud claims and as a guide to when Benford's Law does and does not apply.

9 comments from Hacker News

@MrJohz2023-04 · in “Investigating and preventing scientific misconduct with Benford’s law”

Matt Parker did a good video with lots of visuals to explain why Benford's Law works in general, but why it cannot always be simply applied to election results. ▶ this video

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@nitrogen2020-12 · in “California Public Utilities Commission fired director who exposed missing $200M”

I am replying for the sake of the hidden sibling comment: I don't watch any major media coverage of politics, but a mathematician and comedian I follow on YouTube (from a different country who presumably has no horse in the race) has analyzed some of the numerical allegations of fraud: - link - link - ▶ this video

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@adgjlsfhk12024-08 · in “Suspicious data pattern in recent Venezuelan election”

Precints have roughly even populations and therefore typically don't conform to Benford's law. ▶ this video

@nick2382024-08 · in “Suspicious data pattern in recent Venezuelan election”

There were some pretty shit analysises of the 2020 US elections that Matt Parker covered with videos like "Why do Biden's votes not follow Benford's law?"[1] and "Why was Biden's win calculated to be 1 in 1,000,000,000,000,000?"[2]. I don't know about other countries, but the amount of data that every county in every US state produces makes systematic fraud pretty much impossible. If there's literally only 3 numbers produced by the Venezuelan government, you need to be seriously incompetent to have detectable fraud because techniques like Benford's or Zipf's law need lots of individual numbers. [1]: ▶ this video [2]: link

@runarberg2024-03 · in “How the Gaza Ministry of Health Fakes Casualty Numbers”

First of all it looks at suspiciously limited data (Oct 26th to Nov 11th) when we know more data is available. This is a known tactic from climate deniers who claim e.g. that data from a single weather station in Canada from October 2006 to June 2014 shows the world is actually cooling. Second of all it makes vague assumptions about distributions without clarifying or even justifying why it should have a different distribution. This is straight from the playbook of Trump’s election denialism where some variation of election results was somehow proof of tampering[1]. With statistics you can find any results you want if you look at limited enough data from a large enough pool, and you can find any abnormality you want by giving unrealistic expectations. This is why you need to clarify which distribution you expect, and—more importantly—justify it by pointing at other examples from similar pools. This is never done here, which is why I call it pseudo-statistical nonesence. Stating it is abnormal is not enough, even when you provide some fancy box plots to do so. 1: ▶ this video