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Are NEW Chinese buildings really FALLING DOWN?

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The ADVChina hosts tour a villa neighborhood in southern China that was built only three years earlier and is already empty and deteriorating. They use it to discuss ghost cities, building quality and the real estate bubble.

HN commenters cite it in threads on China's housing glut and construction quality as visual evidence of poor, empty new buildings.

11 comments from Hacker News

@ajflores16042019-07 · in “China’s State-Driven Growth Model Is Running Out of Gas”

This video from last year was pretty eye opening to me. Shows uninhabited "new" ghost cities completely crumbling. There's no underlying value to the property bubble going on over there and the scale seems mind blowing. ▶ this video

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@ballenf2018-08 · in “Always-on Alibaba office app fuels backlash among Chinese workers”

ADV China youtube channel has covered this with some great video of new construction problems in China (not implying the problem is only there): ▶ this video

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@onlypositive2023-02 · in “Scalability Is Overrated”

A large number of them aren't and they're crumbling apart after only a couple of years being built. ▶ this video

@jollybean2021-09 · in “Societies that treat women badly are poorer and less stable”

I'm sorry that you're not aware of the reality of total lack of quality in many products and services in China, which is partly due to a function of lower costing, but also due to a general lack of industrial focus on quality, and particularly a lack of standards. And then gaslight others for pointing out the facts ... I work for a company that sells an electrical device, which has considerable standards applied in Europe and North America, and basically none in China. The competitive products to ours in China are essentially dangerous. They will start fires. We manufacture in China, and depending on the manufacturer, can usually make no assumptions about quality, other than it will be the lowest possible unless there is considerable oversight. Unbelievable, 'shocking' hacks and cutting corners, which we view as a matter of quality, they view as a matter of cost reduction. With the bigger factories that do business with big established brands, that's less of a problem because they're consistently building for markets with higher standards and requirements. For some thoughts on Food Safety [1][2] In China, in the year 2000, only 50% of the population had 'basic sanitation' services i.e. toilets. That's changed a lot, but there are still wide swaths of population literally without basic sanitation. The number is effectively 100% in almost every other semi-developed country. [3]. Even in 2015, 5% of the country still does not have access to basic water. [4] Chinese construction

@toomuchtodo2021-09 · in “China Evergrande contagion concerns rile global markets”

Bit of a hot take. While there are some buildings in the US where substandard construction are going to catch up to the building and the owners, shoddy construction is endemic in China (or buildings are left unfinished and eventually need to be retired before completion). link ▶ this video link